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QUEENS Park Rangers supporters voted for their best all-time eleven on the Vital QPR forums - here we reveal their choices.


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Queens Park Rangers supporters voted for their best all-time eleven on the Vital QPR forums - here we reveal their choices.

The players below were chosen by members of the Vital QPR forum and in the event of a tie in voting the editor will arbitrate.

Manager: Alec Stock

While Gordon Jago and Dave Sexton undoubtedly did incredible jobs for Queens Park Rangers, Stock tips the balance having taken Rangers to their only major trophy - the League Cup in 1967.

Spells with Yeovil Town, Orient, Arsenal and Roma came before he signed for Rangers in August 1959 and bringing in players such as the talented Rodney Marsh and Mark Lazarus while overseeing Mike Keen, Frank Sibley, Tony Hazell, Roger Morgan, Ian Morgan and Mick Leach through the youth system.

He led Rangers to an unprecedented League and Cup double, while leading QPR to the first division in a stunning run through the leagues. He resigned never having picked a top-flight side with Rangers.

He had successful spells with Luton Town and Fulham, leading the latter to an FA Cup final before rejoining for a caretaker stint at Loftus Road in 1978 prior to the appointment of Steve Burtenshaw.

Stock passed away in 2001 after a long-illness at the age of 84.

Goalkeeper: Phil Parkes

Parkes moved to Loftus Road from Walsall for a fee of 15,000 in June 1970, making his debut in August of that year in the 3-1 home defeat to Leicester City.

His time at Loftus Road was one of the most successful in QPR`s history, gaining promotion under Gordon Jago, before Dave Sexton`s side finished slender runners-up to Liverpool in 1976.

He made one appearance for his country against Portugal in 1974 and was eventually sold to West Ham United after 406 appearances for QPR in all competitions.

A world record was broken in his 500,000 transfer, which was the highest fee paid in the world for a goalkeeper.

Right Back: Dave Clement

Despite coming in neck and neck with David Bardsley I have opted for Clement for 14 years of loyal service at QPR and his consistent performances throughout helping Rangers move forward.

He came up through the ranks at Loftus Road initially as a central defender making his debut against Scunthorpe United in 1966, a year after signing professional forms.

He helped the side to the Third Division title and their only major trophy - The League Cup during his time in W12 where he established himself as the first and only choice at full-back.

Clement made 472 appearances for QPR over 14 years, scoring 28 goals, during his time he also made five appearances for England while establishig himself under the three greatest managers in QPR history - Alec Stock, Gordon Jago and Dave Sexton.

He was sold to Bolton Wanderers for 170,000 before spells at Wimbledon and Fulham. He sadly passed away after suffering from depression, aged 34.

Centre Back: Alan McDonald

McDonald came up through the Rangers youth system but in his early days under Terry Venables he struggled to make a significant impact with Terry Fenwick and Bob Hazell the firm first choices.

He gained experience during a brief loan spell at Charlton Athletic and broke into the Rangers side following the sale of Hazell. He didn`t look back partnering the likes of Fenwick then Danny Maddix, as he also broke into the Northern Ireland set-up.

McDonald was a stalwart in the side that finished a lofty fifth place in the first season of the Premier League in 1993 but following relegation he was sold to Swindon Town. He made 476 appearances for Rangers over 18 years at Loftus Road while gaining 52 caps for his country.

Centre Back: Terry Fenwick

After making a successful start to his career at Crystal Palace, Queens Park Rangers made a move for the versatile player in 1980, and it proved to be a shrewd signing from boss Terry Venables who brought him from over from Selhurst Park.

He made his debut against Bolton Wanderers in December of that year following the 100,000 move, and established himself as both an adept central defender and midfielder.

Fenwick scored in the 1982 FA Cup Final against Tottenham Hotspur, while skippering Rangers to the Second Division title in 1982-83. He lead the side out against Oxford United in the Milk Cup final before following Terry Venables to Tottenham Hotspur in 1987 for 550,000.

He was loaned out briefly to Leicester City before finishing his career at Swindon Town. He also made 20 appearances for England

Left Back: Ian Gillard

Gillard was another useful product from the QPR conveyor belt and formed a formidable partnership with Dave Clement who plied his trade on the other flank.

The left-back starred in the 1975-76 runners-up season as Rangers narrowly lost out to Liverpool and during his time at Loftus Road was an ever-present twice.

He featured in a staggering 479 games for QPR, which is the third highest in the clubs history and his final game for the club was the 1982 FA Cup final replay against Tottenham Hotspur.

He then joined Aldershot becoming a player/coach at the Recreation Ground.

Right Midfield: Dave Thomas

Moving from promotion rivals Burnley in October 1972 for a princely sum of 165,000, which was then a record fee for a second division club. Thomas immediately made an impact helping QPR to promotion.

They were runners-up to his former club Burnley causing them to chant Thomas, Thomas Runner Up on his return to Turf Moor.

He played an integral part of Rangers 1975-76 season where they finished runners-up to eventual winners Liverpool putting in a succession of outstanding displays on either flank. It was well known that when the socks were rolled down, Thomas meant business.

Thomas made 219 appearances for QPR scoring 34 goals and setting out countless others - in 1977 he left the club for Everton in a 200,000 move.

Further spells at Wolverhampton Wanderers, Vancouver Whitecaps, Middlesbrough and Portsmouth brought an excellent career to a close. Thomas also earned eight international caps for England.

Central Midfield: Gerry Francis

Francis came up through the ranks at QPR and made his debut against Liverpool a full three months before turning professional in 1969.

He was an ever-present in Rangers 1972-73 promotion season back to the top flight under Gordon Jago and skippered the side to a slender runners-up spot in 1975-76.

He joined Crystal Palace in 1979 for 450,000 and was brought back by Terry Venables for 150,000 a year later, on his return to the managerial hot-seat at Loftus Road.

Francis made 310 appearances for QPR scoring 57 goals captaining England on eight occasions during his time with Rangers.

He moved to Coventry City for 150,000 before finishing his career with spells at Exeter City, Cardiff City, Swansea City, Portsmouth and Bristol Rovers.

Gerry managed Rangers on two occasions in 1991 and 1998, with the former a more successful spell in the top flight.

Central Midfield: Terry Venables

After an extended period at Chelsea he moved to Tottenham Hotspur where he won the FA Cup in 1967 before joining QPR in 1969 for 70,000.

Venables made 177 appearances in the league for QPR scoring 19 goals playing a key part in Gordon Jago`s side that achieved promotion back to the top-flight.

He left Rangers to join Crystal Palace for 70,000, but was later to return as manager in 1980 bringing with Gerry Francis and Terry Fenwick in tow. His brand of passing football wowed the crowd in W12 as he led them to the second division title in 1983.

Venables left the role at Loftus Road to take up the managerial role at Barcelona.

Left Midfield: Andy Sinton

Sinton signed for QPR from neighbours Brentford after a successful initial spell with Cambridge United. The fee for the winger was 300,000 and he was twice an ever-present as Rangers finished fifth in the first season of the Premier League.

During that season he scored Rangers goal in the first ever game on Sky Sports` 'Monday Night Football` against Manchester City.

He scored 22 goals in 160 league appearances for QPR before moving to Sheffield Wednesday for 2,700,000 in August 1993. He helped Tottenham Hotspur lift the League Cup in 1999 before finishing his career with Wolverhampton Wanderers, Burton Albion and Bromsgrove Rovers.

Striker: Stan Bowles

Bowles had previously had spells with Manchester City, Crewe Alexandra and Carlisle United before being snapped up for 112,000 - being heavily billed as the man to replace the outgoing Rodney Marsh.

He is considered by many to have bettered his predecessor by firing 70 goals in 255 appearances for Rangers including the outstanding 1975-76 season where Rangers finished runners-up to Liverpool.

He was sold to Brian Clough`s Nottingham Forest in a somewhat surprising move where the two styles were vastly contrasting. He wasn`t available to play in the European Cup Final owing to a fear of flying.

Striker: Les Ferdinand

Ferdinand was signed from non-league Hayes for 30,000 and was sent out on loan to Brentford then Besiktas to hone his skills.

He return a different player to make himself a firm fans favourite and 80 goals in 163 league appearances helped Rangers to useful finishes in the Premier League including fifth in 1992-93.

Rangers` imminent relegation saw him sold to Newcastle United for 6,000,000, before playing further games in the Premier League for Tottenham Hotspur, West Ham United and Bolton Wanderers.

Many thanks to all who voted and contributed




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Date:Monday August 31 2009

Time: 1:35PM

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Can you please tell me where Arthur Gnohere and Ian Evatt are in that back line! :D
talktoferg
Narrowly missed out, along with Caeser... Anybody care to venture any players that could have got into this line-up? I would say Givens perhaps should be in over Sinton. Most of that line-up are from 75-76, but then again it speaks worlds for how close we were to claiming our first title!
Boxer
No Rodney Marsh, Clive Allen, Simon Stainrod ? I know Les is a legend but he isn't one of our best two strikers ever !
kiwi park ranger
As voted by fans - don't shoot the messenger Kiwi - personally Les did it fairly consistently at a high level and most of Rodney's work was done in the lower leagues, which is my attempt to justify it. We did have a lot of talented forwards... Allen and Stainrod to name but a couple!
Boxer
I appreciated its all voted for but for pure skill, mind-blowing goals and entertainment value give me Stainrod and Wegerle anyday. Awesome ! (also the fact that Les seems to consider himself a Spurs God really bugs me !)
kiwi park ranger
Even if you go back further, George Goddard, Arthur Longbottom, even further back Evelyn Lintott - all quality players in their time, Pat Kerrins even!
Boxer
Sorry Kiwi old chap, I agree with Boxer here. I remember Ferdinand making his debut, and I thought, "what a lanky piece of *****, he's absolute toilet!", but well the rest is history, beefed himself up, guiding thoughts from Super Ray and away he went, loved watching him! As for Stainrod okay he had that certain charisma and he could pull a goal out of his backside but I found the lazy bugger so frustrating!
daveinmelbourne
Trevor Francis is a genius in that respect, loaned him out to Turkey and he came back a different player!
Boxer
Hey where is Bob Malcolm??
ozanne park rangers
It's a sad affair when our first ever super star genius is not in the best 11.Rodney Marsh, was the greatest and most copied player we have EVER had! Off the top of your heads, can everyone think of a QPR player before Rodney? He put us on the map. The only trophy we have EVER won, the League Cup in '67 is remembered for the non stop shouts of 'ROD-NEE ROD-NEE' the first time a crowd had chanted a players name & not the team. His 'WEMBLEY WONDER GOAL' was voted the best ever Qpr goal, 44 goals in 53 games, he took us from the 3rd to 1st division, winning our ONLY EVER trophy on the way. 'The Perfect Hat-Trick' against Birmingham in '70, the famous photo on the cover of Stan's book, when he's reading a paper while waiting for a corner, was copied from Rodney who was doing it in '66! he would also warm up by keeping up oranges & even coins from on end of the pitch to the other! He made QPR famous and fashionable. His goal ratio is amazing and even the great Eusabio said ' Best & Marsh have the most skill in England" and George has Rodney in all his books & DVD'S + the toured together. BY Besties admission, Rodney completely outshined him at Fulham in '76! He was thrown in an already solid team at Man City, but went on to be a legend there as well &Captain. At QPR, he was the one that made the 10 shirt 'HOLY' Stan only got it, because he was the only one that would wear it! As soon as my Cousin Tony Currie was signed, they took it from Stan and gave it to Tony! A Genius, does NOT get sacked from Man City, Crewe, Bury, Carlisle, Notts Forest, Orient & end up in division 3 at Brentford 2 years after being at QPR!! If it wasn't for Gerry Francis, Dave Thomas, Don Masson & Don Givens (Who was top goalscorer- he wouldn't of made it at QPR either!!! He's bitter about Rodney because he knows he wasn't in his league and Rodney was the first number 10 mega star! he was also one footed, and for a genius- he WON NOTHING!!! he say's "I was more of a winner, but Rodney just wanted to show off" a strange quote from a man who won nothing, and Rodney has the medals? None of that great '76 side won a thing, they came second in the League... that was it! Rodney went to America and played against the likes of Pele and totally made Pele look stupid! this was only 2 years after the golden Brazil team. I have loads of Tampa games, and after one against Pele's Cosmos the commentator said " Well, the Englishman Marsh completely outshone Pele again! BIG TIME" That's an actual quote. I saw them both play, I have about 200 DVD'S + NASL, and know Rodney extremely well. I also know Stan, who is still going on about Rodney. Look at the list of teams Stan was let go from, that's not a genius! Stan walked into a ready made team surrounded by internationals (Most came from Rodney's Man City deal) Rodney never had that at QPR, none of them went on to legendary status, but they were the little 3rd division Club, that beat the 1st Division Club at Wembley- OUR ONLY TROPHY! and was doing all the tricks & flicks like a Brazilian. But most of Rodney's games were not filmed, Stan came along just at the time when the media had gone football mad. Stan, i'm afraid re-writes history to suit him. He still tells the story of when he knocked the FA Cup off it's stand- That wasn't even him, it was Tony Hazell!! I know Stan, and he speaks Crap! like he & Bestie were the closest pals, George didn't really like him, and blanked his testimonial. Rodney, was Georges closest friend, look in any Best book or DVD. I honestly don't think QPR fans today have any idea of their Clubs history. If they did, they would fight for our proper badge back and have a statue of Mike Keen, our ONLY trophy lifting Captain outside QPR. Bowles was a decent player, Rodney was a TRUE GENIUS- there's a big difference. And to have a best 11 with no Marsh, is like a best 11 MAN UTD with no George Best!!! I shall leave the final word to the greatest player ever to come from Britain - George Best- " Rodney & I are the closest of mates, and on the field Rodney is 100 % GENIUS of the highest order, but people just don't give him the credit he deserves. He's Qpr's greatest Legend and an English GENIUS. He's the only player I have seen who can dribble round defenders, keeping the ball 2" from his foot and not looking down once..... I can't even do that!!!" Most Bowles fans get their impression of how good he was from others, who never saw him either. Those who saw Marsh, Bowles & Currie- usually put Stan at the bottom! You really need to get some DVD's of Rodney, you can't take your eyes off of him, Stan actually bores me, it's Gerry, Dave & the 2 Don's that carried that team, the proof is in all those Clubs Stan was sacked from 'SCRAPHEAP STAN' as one headline reads ' Marsh Cracks wonder goal- GLORY, GLORY RANGERS!!!' another reads!!!
geniusmarsh
Rodney's work wasn't mostly done in the lower Leagues. He took us out of division 3 out of division 2 and into division 1 beating a first division side to win the League Cup. He then went on to become a legend and Captain of the classic Man City side of Colin Bell, Francis Lee & Mike Summerbee. Man City were always near the top of division 1... What did Stan do at MAN CITY? Even if he played in the 3rd division for all his time at QPR- he was still the star of the 3rd division League Cup Team who beat a first division team, to win our one and only solitary trophy!!!!! It's also well known now, that Spurs, Liverpool & MAN UTD put in bids for Rodney, and Alec Stock turned them all down without telling Rodney! I don't think the '67 team have been given enough credit through the years, any other Club would of had a memorial to their ONLY trophy winning Captain, there is not even a key ring at Loftus Road for Mike Keen.... and I think that's disgusting!!! other Clubs fans, simply wouldn't accept it. Remember Spurs fans burning season tickets during the Venables V Sugar case, or Newcastle fans demanding Keegan come out and explain the selling of Andy Cole? QPR fans just go " Oh dear, that's bad tut tut- and I liked our old emblem as well" but they won't stand united together and protest and demand. You could move the ground to Scotland and they still wouldn't do anything except moan among themselves. I refused to buy this seasons shirt or anything with that disgusting emblem, if everyone had done that, they would HAVE to change it, but no- it's moaned about while they are wearing it! If the fans don't get spines, a fire in the belly, protest and stand together and MAKE them listen....... The QPR that we know will be gone. A new badge, and no legends in the Club Shop, they were even going to call us 'QUEENS PARK CITY' But alarm bells didn't seem to ring for anyone. My pal at QPR keeps a shirt there for me & gets Legends to sign it. Can you remember a time when there wasn't A SINGLE player you wanted to sign something, or that you rated? there is not a single player from that team I want on that shirt! there has always been one or two, not now. It's not like going to Loftus Road anymore, which used to be warm, welcoming and home from home. Now, it's like being on a conveyer belt and having your pockets emptied!
geniusmarsh
Any Queens Park Rangers 'Legends XI' without Rodney Marsh is simply nonsense! Andy Sinton at his best was a mediocrity. Also remember Tony Currie played for QPR! Most of those in the Legends XI are worthy of mentions. But none, absolutely none, merit being in the team ahead of the 'Squire of Shepherds Bush'!
qpredward
It's a real shame that QPR fans have forgotten how amazing and famous Rodney Marsh was. QPR'S first superstar, and a genuine genius! 46 goals in 53 games! a league Cup winner while in the 3rd division, against a first division opponents, not being surrounded by internationals (Like Stan was!), 'The Wembley Wonder Goal', 'The Perfect Hat-Trick', a pure bred entertainer who always gave fans their money's worth, made the number 10 shirt 'Holy' at Loftus Road, ask an everyday football fan, if they can name a QPR player before Rodney?.... I bet they can't!, and all that about, he only done it in the lower divisions? rubbish!- he was bought from Fulham in division 1, and there top goal scorer among the company of- Johnny Haynes, Bobby Robson, George Cohen and Allan Mullery!!! Before him, crowds always chanted the teams name, but never individual players. Every game all you could hear was ' Rod-neee, Rod-neee'. He made QPR fashionable, and that late 60's team made QPR!... full stop! Stan never made it at Man City, Crewe, Bury, Carlisle, Forest, Orient and wouldn't have made it at QPR without the back up of- Gerry Francis, Dave Thomas, Don Masson, Don Givens and Terry Venables... ALL internationals! People seem to forget, Stan WON NOTHING!!!! and less than 2 years after leaving the comfort of QPR, was with Brentford in division 3! That's NOT a genius!!! Compare Bowles & Marsh games to goals ratio, it's all there. To have Stan in the greatest team, and leave out the man who made that Club what it was at it's best, is a sad reflection on fan's gratitude and knowledge of QPR! Without Rodney, there would of been no Bowles at QPR (If Stan was that much better, why wasn't Rodney sold to buy and make way for Stan???...it didn't happen like that, Rodney left!) And as ever, no mention of our ONLY Captain to lift a major trophy - Mike Keen (Who? I hear from the brainwashed Bowles brigade!) the man should have a statue and the Club a '67 stand. Stainrod, had a terrible first touch (and second!) and fell over each time the wind blew, I just wanted to shake the annoying git, he was scared of getting the ball and got rid of it, anyway he could!!!! Clive Allen was the opposite, and the opposition were scared of him, he was dangerous! So was Barry Bridges. Don Masson, Don Givens, Terry Mancini and Tommy Langley never got the credit they deserved. Neither did- Martyn Busby, Les Allen, Ray Wilkins or Peter Hucker. But not to include, our first super star (Who was a first division player, and moved on to Captain MAN CITY- i'm sick of this, he only did it in the lower league's crap! that team won our ONLY trophy against a first division team, and he was bought from Fulham!... What did Stan win us????) And most skillful player we have ever had, as well as being QPR'S first international for 63 years!! Actually doesn't surprise me, QPR fans really don't have the passion of other Clubs. (Remember when Keegan sold Andy Cole, and the fans forced him out to explain himself? or when Spurs fans burned their season tickets, in support for Venables and their raw hatred for Sugar?... Can you imagine QPR fans doing those things?????? NO CHANCE!!!) Why has a memorial for Mike Keen never been even considered? Why are the 'Boy's of '67' treated like crap by the Club? (Which they are!) Why can't you buy a genuine long sleeved, home 60's - Double Winning shirt in the shop? or legends T-shirts and 'Victory '67 T-shirts' (Buy the way, I got the Rodney Marsh T-shirt in that shop!) Because we don't stand together, and TAKE ACTION like other Clubs!! I remember all the moaning about the new badge... did anyone actually do anything, apart from moan on message boards????? NO!!! And that's why Rodney Marsh, Mike Keen, Dave Clement, Bobby Keetch, Mick Leach, Roger Morgan and our only ever cup winning goal scorer Mark Lazarus and the team that when Rodney joined, went from the 3rd to 1st division, winning the League Cup on the way.Because whatever that Club decide to do (I have spent a lot of time upstairs with the 'Suits'... and they are COMPLETELY CLUELESS...... TRUST ME!!!!!) QPR fans will just along with it, have a moan but buy the new shirts with the new badge on they hate (Which I NEVER did!) and upstairs thinks the fans are happy, because we have never got together and told them otherwise!!! And that's the truth dear friends!!! And Ian Morgan who played with Rodney and Stan, told me. "There was more football on TV in Stan's time, but trust me.... Stan was good, but Rodney was a genius, looke what happened as soon as he joined us! Stan couldn't clean Rodney's boots.....He MADE QPR, They owe him and the fans owe him, but you know what?........... They don't care about Rodney or any of us!"
geniusmarsh
Any Legends XI without Rodney Marsh is simply not credible!
qpredward
 

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